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AMAC Supports New House Rule on Social Security

DanPictureTLC20062-768x1024By – Daniel C. Weber

Dan Weber, President of the Association of Mature American Citizens Issued the Following Statement Regarding the Measure Passed Yesterday by the House as Part of Its Rules Package (H. Res. 5) for the Next Two Years:

On the first day of the 114th Congress, the House passed an important measure to safeguard Social Security as part of its rules package.

The rule, offered by the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Social Security Sam Johnson (TX-03), prohibits the transfer of funds from Social Security’s retirement program (OASI) to the Social Security disability program (SSDI) unless Congress enacts legislation to address and improve the program’s long-term finances.

For far too long, lawmakers and other parties have used OASI as a slush fund to bailout DI, which is expected to become insolvent in 2016. Over the years, individuals enduring financial hardship have been increasingly allowed to rely upon SSDI at the expense of those truly disabled. The real problem is a considerable lack of accountable and appropriate controls over the criteria defining eligibility for DI benefits. In fact, now retired Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and his staff conducted serious oversight and investigations into SSDI abuse, exposing levels of corruption, cronyism between lawyers and bureaucrats, waste and fraud.

AMAC applauds the House for taking this bold first step toward greater entitlement accountability. Not only does this measure protect Social Security, but it encourages further legislative action that will help us keep our promise to America’s seniors that Social Security will be there for them. It also ensures that SSDI exists for the truly disabled, rather than another convenient handout program at the Federal level.

AMAC looks forward to working with the Social Security Subcommittee and the 114th Congress to see that this promise is kept.

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John Bannen
6 years ago

I worked my whole life and had to go on SSDI in 2008. It took me 3 years to go before judges and panels before I was awarded any sort of income even though I have paid since my first job at 12 years old de-tassling corn. I lost everything my business, my house, my life ability to enjoy my wife and children all from a car accident from a person with only 25000 insurance that I got $7000 out of after Dr’s & lawyers. Now you are asking me to give up a 5th of my income because you think their are to many deadbeats? Why don’t we do this, have the rich/1% club pay their fair share of tax? I have always paid my share for this great country I love. But people who make $250000 and more don’t want to pay their fair share in taxes can just move to Mexico. I am ashamed of how the GOP is treating our country, our president our middle class workers who already lost everything from Bush/Cheney bankrupting usa/world leaving on their last a day a deficit of 10.626 Trillion dollars which was 48% of GDP. Everything Obama has spent is trying to fix the mess that GOP left behind. Without Obama care, SSDI MY FAMILY WOULD BE HOMELESS AND PROBABLY DEAD. WAKE UP AMERICA!

Stephen De Witt
6 years ago
Reply to  John Bannen

It took 5yeas to get ssd I got a hart cond

Debbie
6 years ago

What of those who have worked all there lives and become disable ?
I’ve had Quadrupall bypass, 5 cauterizations , blood clots, medication that caused me to have a slow bleeds . In turned caused afib . I can’t help I have a genetic inherited Heart disease ! I work in pain everyday. Worked the day I was committed into Hospital
If not I would have retired from that company ! If I loose my income I’ll loose everything I’ve worked hard for !
Kinda annoyed illegals are over here having babies so they can stay and send most there money back home . driving better cars , 300.00 to 500.00 in food stamps or reward females for having 4 children and five different daddies or not sure who there baby daddies are. Instead of being responsible like myself who graduated worked and can’t get any financial support but my disability. Its Ludicrous ! Something certainly needs to be done but not to people who have worked hard to have what they have to now fight to keep it ! Let Congress live on bwhat some of us who are retired or on disability and see how they can make ends meet !

Alyse
6 years ago

Ya you want to know what’s disgusting the fact that my husband died a week before Christmas we have three children he collected social security they won’t give my kids a fucking penny. This system,country is nothing but a joke anymore.

Dick Ranger
6 years ago

AMAC wants to turn Social Security into a pure welfare program by means testing benefits. If SS is just another welfare program then the FICA tax is just another income tax and then no need for an earnings wage cap. In fact the rate should be progressive.

Encore
6 years ago

Not only should our Social Security not be taxed, which is actually double taxation (on the individual AND employer paid FICA taxes), many of us who worked our fannies off to qualify for our “promised tax-free” SS benefits are further shortchanged if we receive other pensions (federal, state, county, city civil service or private pensions) that we also worked our fannies off for decades to receive, only to be penalized by Congress with the Windfall Elimination Program (WEP), that will cut SS benefits by 1/2 to 2/3rds depending on the aforementioned pensions, determined by a convoluted formula even a Philadelphia lawyer would have trouble deciphering.
Please note: Congress has made sure they enjoy a golden pension after serving just FIVE years in Congress; said pension is adjusted upward depending upon which committee the Congress person served on or chaired; Congress persons do not pay one thin dime towards their Federal pensions; their surviving spouse receives their pension for life if the Congress person passes.
Although there is bill pending in Congress to eliminate the WEP as AMAC is championing, I wouldn’t hold my breath, even with Republicans in control.

M'KRO
6 years ago

How come my social security income is thrown in for income tax purposes? This is thievery!

Jeff Polish M'KRO
6 years ago

How in the hell does our Social Security benefits get rolled into our income. We worked our ass off for it and now we’re penalized just because we still have to work cause we didn’t want our spouses to work full time. They stayed home and took care of the children and nurtured them. There’s going to be as revolution in the near future if this keeps up.

Gary
6 years ago

Social Security and Medicare are special taxes for special purposes, paid for by the working class people for their future benefit and managed by the federal government. They are not meant to be funds to be taken from, borrowed from or even borrowed against. And certainly not meant to be a disability program, especially for those who have not paid into the system! We trusted our government to manage these accounts for us, and they have failed miserably.

Ask your congressman to make a clear definition between “entitlements” (which are paid for and earned) and “charity” (which is a handout) and covers Medicaid, welfare, food stamps, disability, etc. Then clean up all the fraud!

Daver
6 years ago

No need to panic as nothing will ever change. Our government loves printing money way too much to ever stop.

Jim Peth
6 years ago

Regarding Daniel C. Weber’s remarks on the new house rule on social security – Great to applaud them but the widows in Ohio have been waiting for them to live up to their promised seven years ago to pass The Social Security Fairness Act (HR82) – several widows have all ready died on the job waiting.

james parker
6 years ago

dump the parasites the drunks the drug users the illegials from the system and those libearals who support all these handouts !

Judith Rae
6 years ago
Reply to  james parker

I have seen too many druggies and alcoholics placed on SSDI. Most of the ones I know are perfectly healthy in other ways, better off physically than I was. They party on drugs and alcohol, when it would be better for them if they were placed into work programs i.e. WPA or CCC camps. It would get them healthy and away from their harmful habits and they would be contributing to our society instead of being drains. P.S. Those methadone drug programs: the druggies go and get their treatments and then still do their own drugs, so they are really happy now. Before they go to urine testing, they drink a lot of cranberry juice, which they say messes up the tests. How about that!?!

Bob
6 years ago
Reply to  james parker

I completely agree with James.

Karen Hotlen
6 years ago
Reply to  james parker

If your here illegal you don’t get anything unless you become a United States citizen. No food stamps no health care and nothing except if you work you have to pay taxes. So learn the facts.

Don Brown
5 years ago
Reply to  Karen Hotlen

You need to learn the facts lady. The illegals Are collecting government benefits. I know this for a fact.they also are defrauding the irs and Americans out of over 4 billion dollars a year in bogus tax claims .I have seen this with my own eyes!

Dorothy Bower
6 years ago

Why can’t we PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY??????? There was a test case donw years ago and they found that WE THE PEOPLE would get about double what the GOV now doles out to all of us now. If the GOV would stop spending all that money they take in for SS payments and instead ALLOWED it to grow in an account for each and everyone, then we as seniors would at least collect a decent amount. As I sid it would probely be about twice as much as they dole out to us now. If it was privatized and we all got int on that money instead of the gov collecting this money and spendiing it on whatever now, it would benefit everyone concerned.
All the congess member probably would not do this as they want all that is taken in from all of us, to spend on anything they want to come up with. It should be PRIVATIZED, so the GOV cannot get their greedy hands on any of it at all.
Check this out and see if it was just at 3% a year you would gain over the probably about 50 yeas, maybe less maybe more, but it would be allowed to grow instead of congress spending it EVERY year. The do not want to do this because that would mean they would have less money to spend. TAKE IT AWAY FROM ALL OF THEM, for YOURSELF. You can check this out and see for yourself.

Bob
6 years ago
Reply to  Dorothy Bower

At one time there was an option to opt out of SS, and one place in Texas (don’t remember the name) did so and those who did the private SS equivalent draw about three times SS. Here is a link about it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2011/05/12/how-three-texas-counties-created-personal-social-security-accounts-and-prospered/

another one

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba514

Karen Hotlen
6 years ago
Reply to  Dorothy Bower

Do you really want them gambling with your money. Look what would have happen if you had your money privatize with George Bush in office you would have had no social security left. You would be broke just like those who lost every thing they had. No way should you privatize social security.

AnneL
6 years ago

This is the first step in stopping the TRANSFER of funds between the Social Security (SS) and the Social Security Disability (SSD) programs.

1) The one point no one has mentioned is the SSD fund was pilfered when there was a need to support the SS program when the funds were moved OUT of the SSD to bail out the SS program when it fell short.
2) The people receiving the SSD did WORK at some point in their life or they would not receive the SSD. The work qualifier was later redefined to mean a parent or spouse worked enough for this qualifier.
3) What needs addressed is the FORCED people placed into SSD because the employer was given a free ride when Congress allowed the employers disability program to drop people out of that program and place them into the SSD.
4) The people that are in SSD are true disabled for the majority supportive documented reason to qualify. It isn’t easy to qualify.
5) There is a small, very small percentage of people in the program that are abusing it. Those people need to be weeded out but it isn’t going to make much difference in the total bucket. But it will make some difference.
6) SSD sends out affirmation questionnaires to continue to qualify in the program. These are sent but the actual threat to have these confirmations challenged is minimal due to lack of program administrative funds.
7) There isn’t any pride in being in the program when one isn’t receiving a great sum of monthly money in their check. These people are under the radar for receiving Welfare supplemental income because the amount they receive is a few dollars over the qualifying benefits for Welfare and prevents them from receiving food stamps, medical, or housing assistance.
8) Those that do work while on SSD do have their benefit reduced for every dollar they earn. They lose two dollars of the benefit for every dollar earned over a threshold set by the Government.
9) Employers need to be more open to hiring those disabled. Often the disabled have tried to obtain gainful employment just to find there are no jobs that are flexible enough to accommodate their ability or jobs even offered.
10) People need to be more open minded to those disabled. Their attitude often shows the disdain to accept the disabled since it offends their senses of moral judgments.
11) Congress needs to remember these funds were established for one straightforward purpose. It is not the slush fund to borrow money for other Government programs. Congress has been moving these monies into the General funds whenever they allocate more for war, mortgages, bailouts, and so on.
12) The program isn’t perfect. What program is? When the 20% reduction to the benefit occurs it will force people into other Government programs. This is still paid out of the taxpayers money. That will raise the amount of employed people’s tax base.
13) The current employed are actually paying for those that were out of the work force YEARS before… but the TRUE disabled did pay into this program. Employers that forced people out of their job are the ones that need to be forced into continuing the pay for people through the insurance benefit in place at the time of the disability.
14) Those that are disabled to the fault of someone else (accident) should be paid from the accident person deemed at fault. That is why people carry auto insurance etc… these people often find permanent disabilities from auto or physical altercations and are now in the SSD program because insurance falls out of the picture when the person settles with insurance companies. REDEFINE liability insurance programs too.

Yes there is a need to redefine who qualifies for the SSD. The definitions need to state disabilities are to be considered permanent physical handicaps. Those that never worked should never receive the benefit. They should receive Welfare. SSDI is often confusing so maybe that program should be renamed.

Well this isn’t going to change anyone’s mind that has the idea that people live rich off of SSD. Of course it is easy to say these people are living off the Government dole… hopefully you never are disabled. And those that are now collecting SS aren’t going to change their mind because it is their program that is actually running out of money and they live off of it.

Congress needs to get their minds changed. Employers pay into the SS and SSD programs and so do those that receive the benefit. Congress needs to remove the limit on how much one earns then allows the employed to stop paying into the SS and SSD program. This limit allows the fund to run out of money. Also those that earn above the HIGH income shouldn’t be allowed to earn a SS check since these people often have an adequate fund due to their knowledge of how to invest and also having the money to live a normal comfortable life without a concern. The middle class cannot continue to fund all of these Government programs that Congress has implemented in the idea it’s for the good of the Country and its citizens. Illegals do not fall into ANY Government program. These people need to rely on their own resources. After all the life here is better than their own country or they wouldn’t have broke the law to come here. Congress needs to remember their purpose and job is to help its legal citizens. So whether it is the Republicans or the Democrats, BOTH need to recall the true job definition and stop aligning their lifestyle comforts and start working for the legal citizens of the United States.

Judith Rae
6 years ago
Reply to  AnneL

Well stated!

Ronald Vohs
6 years ago

Lived close to subsidized section 8 apartment complex.I see folks who probably could be on disability out there doing everything they can to make it on their own and others that look awfully healthy on welfare.lack of oversight and under staffed agencies big part of problem.

Barbara P
6 years ago

I know what you mean…I have MANY disabilities, one quite evident, when I TRY to walk… and they told me I was not eligible for SSI.

LUTHER
6 years ago

There is only one solution to this problem.If you paid into social security, then you should be able to to receive income from social security. If you did not, then you should not be able to receive any money. Truly disabled people should receive help from other sources.

Jim R 41
6 years ago
Reply to  LUTHER

You are absolutely correct Luther. Just watch the Judge Judy type and game show contestants. The amount of people with or without disabilities drawing SSI who never could have paid into the fund is alarming.
I have had retiring employees who were adopting their grandchildren explain that they were ashamed doing it, but everyone was doing it because their children were too sorry to support their own children. The program needs to return to its basic rules. Besides paying SS taxes for 50 years I also contributed to a contributory pension fund and am aware how a few dollars monthly left alone in 1950 can turn into more than the SS I now receive. It amazes me why none of our elected representatives seem to be aware of these facts. Or maybe they are too busy counting how many votes they can buy, of course with the tax payers money. But wait !!, not 50 years I am still paying for SS, IE Medicare every month. Make that 58 years.

target truth
6 years ago
Reply to  Jim R 41

your elected officials, they know not to be putting labels on people that they dont even know or care about. yes there are abusers to the system. always will be. but those little children that are born with disabilities that get it, no they never paid into it. they never ask for a disability either. they didnt even ask for money. why would you be comparing people to judge judy?? she is a irratated menopausal old cronie. her court room is full of bull crap people that she pays to come there. read the credits in the show. no matter what, both sides go home with money. one just gets more than the other. so i am in my fifties, i never complained about anyone else or what they are doing……i was doing good to pay my taxes and mind my own business. you probably are one of the lucky ones who made it this far. without any setbacks and everything must have been perfect in your life……and i hope it stays that way. be blessed

Gary
6 years ago
Reply to  LUTHER

I agree! My own brother decided to find a doctor who would give him a disability, and it wasn’t difficult! His only disabilities are self inflicted (alcohol and laziness), yet now he’s getting a free income for life! An early retirement!The worst part is that he’s worked side jobs all his life and never paid taxes, and yet he is still ably to benefit? Why? He’s being rewarded for a lifetime of bad behavior while I have to pay for it?

target truth
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary

well gary,then you are just as guilty as he is by not turning him in for fraud. you have knowledge about your brother frauding the system, but not doing anything abou it?????? oh but you are paying for it. that makes it better and a reason not to turn him in??? and i bet he is still working those side jobs…….how did he get ssdi and not work and get the credits that you have to have to get ssdi. ssdi is a program that has been paid into by the ones that get it. they worked long and hard and paid in for a long time. are you jealous that he “has it mad” so to speak. have you taken him for treatment?
you wanna know what ticks me off. people that judge other people only assuming they know things. and that they have it made. ssdi requires so many work credits or you are just not getting it. ssi is a state mandated program based on financial. bet thats what your sorry lazy brother is on.
i worked all my life doing anything and everything i could to take care of my family. i raised four boys on my own. and i paid into the system just like everyone else. its not my fault my body broke down. i worked furniture factorys, mills, gas stations, blah blah, jack of all trades master of none i was. but i took care of my family. and my money took care of those on ss while i was working. and ssdi and ssi. i am over fifty years old. and you want to talk about your brother and assume that evey one else is just like him. annel has it down pat about people like you. you need to open your eyes, you an all people who think like you. one day you might get in the same shape, or maybe by then it will be so many that it will take till you are about to retire to get it. i wont be on it long, i will get retirement soon. so no one has to worry about paying for me. no one deserves to be limited on their income like ssdi. there was more out there for me to do, more i wanted, i had goals to acheive, nice things to buy, wlel that is all a dream for me now, ssdi will be just for the basics an i get to wish for the rest. this is why people with small minds make me upset. they dont think about things like this. they dont see people as humans that might have wanted more out of life than the basics. but i got to be feeling blessed to have what i do have. and i will have you to know, not once have i been on food stamps while waiting for ssdi for four years. not once did i reach out and take what i could have. i drained all resources an sold what i could, lost more than i wanted to. if you and people like you would think of people on disability not label them as welfare losers, but actually take a good look at people who used to have and take great pride, then lose that pride as you lost your life savings, your everything, including marriages. then the world would be a better place. but you want to put labels on everyone. one bad apple to ruin the whole bunch. yes there are people out there that abuse the system, they abuse every system they can, and as long as the world is here, it will continue, no matter what the case. but there are good people and i think you should try to get to know them before you put labels on them. if they get rid of ssdi, then what program is gong to be picking up all these people from the streets that have died, homeless, your mother, your brother, your sister,, it could be anybody you know. you should be ashamed of yourselves, putting yourself above and better than others. right now, i am glad obama is the president, cause i sure would not want one of you narrow minded people to run it. i kept thinking hillary should not be the president, but you all are changing my mind pretty quick. this world is coming to a bad place, and you might be one of the ones that falls thru the cracks…………be blessed………..

Ivan Berry
6 years ago

After reading the article and all the comments made up to now, it is obvious that something drastic needs to be done to phase the government out of it’s welfare mode and return responsibility for individual support to the people who, by and large, are more able to plan and care for themselves and loved ones better than the government ever could hope to do on “other peoples money.” Nothing should be done suddenly to disenfranchise those who through no fault of their own have been forced into dependancy on the government, but a true workers’ insurance program like fraternal and service organizations long ago provided bread winners and their families to replaced earnings lost through death or illness or injury. Those organizations would not provide disability coverage to drunks nor drug heads. To be a member, one had to be of good report and measure up to the standards of the affiliation.
Private savings instead of Social Security makes good sense except that the government and the central bank keep devaluing the purchasing power of the dollar to the extent that by the time you might need the moneys acrued it was worth less than, often much less than it had been worth at deposit.
There are no simple solutions to the quagmire we have allowed, but thinking men and women (unlike politicians) could come up with a menu of solutions to bridge the gap from what is to what should be. But first, we would need get out of all these globalist expenses, foreign aid, world policeman exercises and minding everybody else’s business but our own. We must proceed on the principle of “first do no harm,” like the medical profession’s Hippocratic Oath of the past. This nation doesn’t need more welfare, but more responsibility and some way out of dependancy and into independance, a new declaration, an additional declaration that honors individual effort and returns the collective back to the communities, towns, counties and states where they belong. That, however, is not an invitation for Californeos on welfare to come to Texas. First you would need to be of good report. RIK, you would probably be welcome. Oh, and we do not need any more lawyers. Got an overabundance of our own.

Charles F Self Sr
6 years ago
Reply to  Ivan Berry

No where in the Constitution does it address welfare or welfare payments, George Washington wrote a letter where he stated that he would hope congress would started a assistance for the men who had fought in the Revolutionary War. I believe he would feel the same about our Military men & women today. Social Security is where people have paid into, it is a promise between the people and government.(Insurance police for old age) Therefore, I believe the U, S Government needs to get the hell out of all the welfare programs, i.e. food stamp, health insurance, cell phones, unemployment insurance, and the other 245 other programs. I personally believe that 98% of the people on any form of welfare are fraudulent.

Judith Rae
6 years ago

People on those programs are living better than hard working citizens. They have no desire to really look for work. A few maybe, but why would they want to work for little wages, when they live richer on the programs.

target truth
6 years ago

“) Therefore, I believe the U, S Government needs to get the hell out of all the welfare programs, i.e. food stamp, health insurance, cell phones, unemployment insurance, and the other 245 other programs. I personally believe that 98% of the people on any form of welfare are fraudulent.”

then you my freind, i personally believe that you need to get your head up on your shoulders and look around…..you are in some kind of dream world. your world must only exist in your house. yes they need some kind of reforn that applies more to the working people, and helping them, but even your world doesnt include that. how are you going to explain all the violence and thieving going on everywhere, where people are going hungry, how are you going to explain the elderly woman living down your street, where she cant buy her medicines, and eating cat food cause she cant get some kind of help, cause she cant get no help. cause people like you wished it away cause some people abused it. it dont work like that thank god. you cant get rid of one bad for another and the next thing will be used the same way. so get over your proud self. cause someone might recomment a program where the government might come out and tax your retirement fund to pay for rehabilitation for some kind of drug. grass isnt always greener on the other side, or everybody would be living on the other side…..get your aha moment on your own time….

Kathleen Donnafield
6 years ago
Reply to  Ivan Berry

George W. and Wall Street really, really wanted to get their hands on Social Security but just weren’t able to get that done. Every working American taxpayer has paid into Social Security and FDR intended for it to insure senior citizens would have some comfort in knowing there would be a retirement fund at the end of their working days even though most would have to have a substantial savings plan to live comfortably. Today, pensions offered to new employees is virtually unheard of and most middle class workers are now just getting by, making less than 20 or 30 years ago so to state people could do a better job than the government is hogwash. With all due respect, once I found you are from Texas, I understand where ‘you’ are coming from…illogically though it may be. Btw; you’ve got enough Texicaneos on welfare without thinking Californians…welfare or not….would ever want to come your way!

Karen Hotlen
6 years ago

Kathleen I agree with you 100percent. If people would get a decent wage they wouldn’t need help from the government but there are people working 2 or 3 jobs and are getting paid very low Their are probably a few who do abuse it but you find that in anything or any programs. Our Congress abuse’s what they are getting but no one says one word about them. They are working for the government some of them hate so much . They work only a few days a week and have more vacation than the hours they work. They have their staff do the work for them and probably get paid a lot more and get all these free benefits they get for life which they certainly don’t earn either. Then they become rich in office because they make it a career.We have Paul Ryan from Wisconsin who went to college on social security but now he wants to take it away from other pore and privatize it. That’s being a hypocrite.

Lincoln Sorensen
6 years ago

This piece has certainly provoked many to comment. I am amazed by the number. I read about half of them. One I noticed in particular. A 74 year old gentleman with a 7th grade education who learned a trade in the military and enlarged it to 2 teaching certificates. I also noticed the man has better english and spelling skills than most college graduates of recent vintage. I will be 74 in 6 months. had 2 older sisters and they would come home from school and we all 3 would play school. I read Robinson Crusoe hard cover before I entered first grade. The teachers back then were better because they were allowed to teach and discipline. Since Dr. Spock and the ACLU and the advant of TV and all the other distractions and 2 income families required just to put food on the table the schools have dumbed down to be able to meet the required standards. Teachers and principals are being arrested for helping students cheat on tests. I worked on farms after quitting school in the 10th grade till I enlisted in the Navy. 4 years later I went to mechanics school at night for 49 weeds while working full time days. I was a mechanic for one year and then I got a job as an insurance auto damage appraiser. This eventually evolved into a multi-line adjusters career which normally requires a college degree. I did get my GED in the Navy. It’s true. They educators back in the early 1900’s was much better. I observed throughout my career while interviewing, hiring and firing that each year the prospectrive employees became stupider and carried more attitude for less justification than ever before. They were virtually impossible to teach and frequently came in late or not at all and most assuradly would not put in any extra time to get claim checks out to policyholders and third party claimants who had injuries and damages. This country is going down the tubes like Rome and we aren’t doing anything to correct the issues that are bringing it on.

Marjorie
6 years ago

You or so right Sir.

Lincoln Sorensen
6 years ago

If the people we “hire” (elect) were honorable safegaurds would not be needed. Just the common sense of doing the right thing would have prevented SS from being merged with the general fund for deceptive budgetary reasons. Had SS been left alons and allowed to grow when unemployment was low they would not have to be using some wierd method to determine COLA percentages. We went 3 years without a COLA and then 2 COLA percentages of 1.7. All those years gas, groceries and medicine prices were escalating. But, those apparently do not factor in to the COLA math. If the SS fund had been left alone all these years and COLA was properly calculated over all these years, seniors would be receiving their proper return on their investment. They would also be able to live better, spend money to travel, purchase vehicles, etc. What would that mean to the economy????? Yes, what they are attempting to do now is long overdue and the constant inclusion of SS in the “entitlement” rhetoric needs to come to a halt. The Dems want everyone to become comfortable with calling SS entitlement so they can eventually cut it out entirely and meld it into the other welfare fiascos.

target truth
6 years ago

you said what they are attemting to do. key word sir. but how many times do you have to be told that social security disability is not a welfare program?? how many times?? you have to have a lot of work credits to be able to get this. and these days you are not going to be able to fool judges. there are a few that can, and people just like you can get scammed too. you have to have worked and be truly disabled. now say you looked at this person walking up the street. you say nothing wrong with him, he has got two legs and two hands all his fingers and toes. why is he on disability””””? because you cant see it doesnt mean it isnt there. i worked hard all my life, i worked on a farm i was raised on without electricity and i walked three miles to the bus stop. the reason i worked hard, i was raised that way. i was taught that way. but because i worked this last job, and the companies arent made to pay for disabling their emploiyees, well, i have spent four years fighting for what i dont even want to be on. i havnt even gotten any money yet. i gave up all rights to backpay. i gave it up so i can live going forward. is that how i want to live> no. do i want more nice things that i lost>>>yes. do i want my pay i had. yes. do i want my toyota four runner i had. you bet. and i going to be able to afford it no. do i want to live on a limited income, no. the thougth never crossed my mind i would be in this shape. did it devastate me. yes. did it ruin my marriage of a life time. yes. do i want to live going forward.yes. so if you get what you want, what are your plans to do with me??? since you know so much, what do you plan on doing with all these people like me? call fema?? you are so smart, you know it all, i dont. so please tell me what you are going to do with all these people?????? you know you got all the answers. you going to throw us all in one big hold or gas us to death in chambers like hitler??? you being the entitled and me being the entitilee, i would like to know from you what your plans are???

nick
6 years ago

Our 22yr old disabled daughter is willing to work and has. Because of her disability she needs to be in an AFC home with support services. She can’t get into one because she needs a care plan, that supplies funds for training activities. CMH denies her even an intake evaluation because she doesn’t have violent behaviors or on medication, thus no AFC placement. Now this has nothing to do with this forum directly, but shows the quagmire willing and able folks face. If she could get her placement she’d receive the support she needs but be able to work and earn a portion of her support, thus freeing up monies for others in need. The whole system is broken and it so often appears to me that’s the way the gov’t has it fixed to work. You need to stay broken and dependant on the gov’t. Years ago my husband was laid off and because of our children we got assistance. We received more not working in money and benifets then if my husband had been working a $10 an hr job. His job had paid $3.86hr. And we had struggled and made it. We cut wood with a bow saw from the state forest for a 1700sqft old house. But when we needed some assistance to help with our electric bilk, we didn’t qualify because we hadn’t spent enough on utilities. Go figure…it’s been broken a long time, that was 35yrs ago. Problem today is there’s a long more people on the train that don’t want to get off…or willing to at least shovel coal.

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