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Democratic Candidates Push “Medicare For All” at AARP Forum

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Democratic presidential candidates seem convinced a leftward rush is the ticket to success in 2020.  That is how they aim to beat President Trump, who produced the best economy in 50 years, has strong national security credentials, a moral compass for the Supreme Court – and is reforming healthcare through the private sector.

The biggest Democratic bell-ringer is “Medicare for all,” which kicks 180 million Americans off employer and private plans, takes your doctor away (no more false promises!), and reduces access and quality at one time, saddling America with a $32 trillion-dollar bill.

Do you know how many zeros are in a trillion?  How many hard-earned taxpayer dollars are in 32 trillion?  That is more than 10 Iraq and Afghanistan wars, one and a half times the entire American gross national product, two-thirds of all the money in all the world’s central banks today.  If you are still un-phased, I have some swamp land to sell you.  In short, this is nonsense – all America’s money for worse medical care and breadlines.

Here is the part that will make you laugh – or maybe cry.  People are being sold a bill of goods, and national organizations are buying it, some even selling it.  This week, AARP hosted an event in Iowa that brought out Democratic candidates, and what emerged from the event? 

A Democratic commitment to taking away private health care and giving it “lock, stock and barrel” (can we still say that?) to the federal government.  AARP reported glowingly on its forum, which showcased multiple Democrats defending socialized medicine, dressed up as care for those who find it hard to afford treatments and drugs.  

Let’s cut to the chase – speaking truth about the future, and to those who want to preserve the America’s private health care system.  Republicans have long advocated a variety of reforms, which center around lowering prescription prices (which President Trump has signed Executive Orders and issued regulations to do), addressing pre-existing conditions with networks of private groups, and assuring catastrophic health insurance, a safety net.

Interestingly, legislation on this order has been pressed by Republicans back to George Herbert Walker Bush but opposed by Obamacare Democrats who said it did not go far enough giving control and taxpayer money to the federal government. 

Here is the hard truth, which those Democratic candidates and AARP wishes not to discuss:  If current “Medicare for all” legislation – bad medicine for money we do not have – were to become law, the impact on America would be devastating.

Specifically, “Medicare for all” legislation carnival-barking promotors want – S. 1129 in the Senate and companion House legislation – is a travesty.  It creates a massive government entity to review ALL your medical claims (efficient right?), with one-size-fits-all coverage (because we are all identical, right?), new prosecution of good doctors, hospitals, private and state level providers (because they need them prosecuted, right?), and states: “It shall be unlawful for … a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage … or … an employer to provide benefits …” So, gone is your existing plan, doctor, and coverage level – poof!

But it gets worse.  The federal government will decide if your coverage is “medically necessary or appropriate.”  In a hurry?  Sit down and wait.  Need something others want?  Take a ticket.  Enjoy the idea of rationing?  Step right up.

Moreover, the federal government would be entitled to still charge you more for prescription drugs, commit people over the age of 21, disapprove doctors and providers, demand your invoice in 30 days or you lose coverage, and demand that doctors start ratting on (testifying again) each other.  The old Soviets might like this, but not most Americans.

Add weak fraud and abuse provisions, mass tracking of private individuals’ health, amateur anti-bribery provisions, and that $32 trillion-dollar price tag – roughly one and a half times America’s annual net worth.  And where does that money come from?  Not the tooth fairy – who is also probably up for prosecution, but the middle class.  In short:  From you.

So, when Democratic candidates cheer for a seemingly Soviet-style form of medicine, at ungodly, largely incomprehensible cost – borne by you and me – and the approach is glibly promoted by big organizations like AARP, one must wonder.  Who would be served by such a travesty?  Maybe that ubiquitous, Orwellian-shaped federal government, more bureaucrats and big pro-government groups, but not average Americans.  And there is the rub.  We are the voters still, right?  I certainly hope so.   

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crisinbigbear
6 months ago

I think all I can say I’ve found that is exceptionally good about AMAC is it is not aarp..you know, the folks that did the heavy last lifting to get obammacare in? Reading the articles reminds me of Steve Martin’s character in The Jerk, reporting the scam-in-progress with Mrs. Nussbalm’s credit card; while all the while, charging a tank of gas, and sets of new tires, and whatever else to the stolen card..instead of refusing to play. That’s my impression; or, is there no legal/constitutional remedy for all these procedural atrocities, perpetrated on us by The Government? Haven’t we seen enough??

R paul ROBBINS
2 years ago

+I too left AARP when I got their literature on why we should accept Obamacare, that & finding out how they are nothing more than a liberal promotion company

Anne
2 years ago

From all indications Medicare for all appears to be a political move to buy votes. The very same idea as paying off all loans for college & giving some citizens $25000 for a down payment on a house. The Democrats think they will create a majority of voters who are dependent on government giveaways & thus have their votes forever. Who will pay for this my middle class friends? Of course, it is you and I!!! The Democratic candidates seem to be in competition with each other to see who can create the most popular welfare program. Contrary to Democratic thinking nothing is free. This is the USA & freedom means you can work & have & become whatever you wish. Contrary to Democratic opinion no one owes us anything..The American way…..get a job & work hard!!!! We are a capitalist Republic and I truly believe that the Democrats intend to change what our country was created to be by falsely claiming to care about illegal aliens & open borders when it’s so obvious legal immigration is the safest way for immigrants. Are they planning on letting illegal aliens vote? From all appearances the answer is yes. This is not about health care for all but about control by the Democrats. If they cannot see what socialized medicine has done to other countries they indeed are bind. Let’s enforce our laws & keep our country as it was intended to be as set up in our constitution. America is great even with all our problems it’s still the best place in the world to live thanks to our great founding Fathers.

Carol A. Heister
2 years ago

Why are the demoCRAPS so bent on DESTROYING America?? POWER!! They just can’t stand someone else being in power. But when they are in power, they fill their pockets & do absolutely NOTHING for the people except tax and spend money we don’t have. They are disgusting!! I will NEVER vote for ANY democrap!! PERIOD!!!!!

Larry York
2 years ago

What I don’t seem to grasp is with the left’s push to do away with private health insurance COMPANIES, why on earth is AARP supporting them? Private health insurance is what keeps AARP afloat. All their “referrals” (kickbacks) from Hartford would vanish under the Democrats plan. What am I not seeing/understanding? I dropped AARP when ObamaCare was voted in due to AARP pulling strings with their buds in the House and Senate to get it passed since they stood to gain big time from their alliance with Hartford.

Morris E Meacham
2 years ago

I agree Medicare For All, a federal healthcare plan, designed and managed by the federal government, will produce the following results: 1) Very poor health care for all covered people, 2) A major reduction of qualified Doctors, Nurses, and other support staff, 3) A major reduction of the development and construction of new hospitals and other needed medical facilities, 4) A major reduction in the research and development of new drugs and medical equipment, 5) A staggering increase of taxes to pay for this Socialist plan that has already been a “failure” at so many other countries.
A healthcare plan for all can be designed and made available to all citizens that will produce a plan with better results in the areas of: 1) quality of service, 2) ultimate total cost to all participants and tax payers, and the development of new services, drugs, and medical equipment. For starters my plan structure would include:
1) Plan would be regulated by the federal government,
2) Plan would be developed by participating insurance companies and must be in compliance with federal regulations,
3) Plan will be structured very much like the current Medicare Part C (Medicare Advantage) with coverage for Hospital, Medical, and Drugs.
4) Plan will provide coverage for individuals not families,
5) Plan premium and fees cost will be set for each state and will be set at amounts that will cover all cost. Plan will allow for seamless coverage for members moving from one state to another.
6) Plan will allow for the states and or federal government to establish subsidy plans for those needing assistance. I envision something similar to current Medicaid
7) Plan will allow companies and even governments to pay the premium for its employees.
8) Plan premiums will be established by age groups by state and must be available to all including those with pre-existing conditions. Groups , for example, would be: Group A – Age 0 to 20, Group B – Age 21 to 35, Group C – Age 36 to 50, Group D – Age 51 to 65 or when for Medicare. Maternity and new born will need to be covered.
I know this will need much more thought , but I think it has tremendous potential for developing a plan that we can afford without contributing to the national debt like the “Medicare For All” plans being proposed by some. I just don’t know how to promote it. Would welcome remarks, suggestions, etc.

Morris E Meacham
2 years ago

For some reason the following was not included in my thoughts above. The most important component of my plan is how will this plan lower cost for user/members? Cost to members consist primarily of 1)Insurance premiums 2)Deductibles and 3) Copayments. To lower these cost requires lower cost billed by providers (Hospitals, Doctors, Procedures, Liability Insurance, Office and Equipment, and other) that the insurers must pay on behalf of members. This can be accomplished by our state and federal government through establishing regulations and oversight nonexistent today. The lack of transparency in the healthcare industry is abysmal. Corrective action will lower cost to the American citizens and save trillions of dollars compared to cost of the “Medicare for All” plans being bandied around.

Stephen Osborn, Engineer
2 years ago

This is what brought down the Roman Empire and Venezuela. Buying votes with tax money by promising “free” stuff. I hope Americans are not that gullible and vote these Socialist Democrats out of Washington.

Terry White
2 years ago

First of all, the sorry truth is that this was at an AARP conference which says volumes. ANYONE who spoke at this conference is obviously pro abortion. When I found out that AARP was the nations biggest supporter of PPH I immediately dropped my AARP membership and joined AMAC. So it is no surprise that AARP would invite these loudmouths to speak. It also implies that AARP is supporting Medicare for all. Seems to me to be an oxymoronic stance as they will have to completely revamp all of the insurance plans they ate pushing.

Ron
2 years ago

Why do the Democrats always want something for nothing! Because they are the one that are lazy & want someone else to pay for the fun & their life!

Richard Parker
2 years ago

Socialized Medical Care here it comes. Millions of us Citizens will dye before getting medical care. Look at Canada and the UK. If you have a brain tumor, you will have a minimum of a 6 month wait before you can see a specialist for you condition. Some conditions take even longer!!!!! NO TOO MEDICARE FOR ALL. IF THEY HAVEN”T PAID INTO IT< THEN THEY DON"T CARE ANY SERVICE?COVERAGE. AND, OUR NATIONAL DEBT WILL SKYROCKET EVEN MORE!!!!!!!!!

Suzy McDowell
2 years ago

I am praying to the God our Country was founded upon to intervene for the democrats NOT to inherit ANY government office in the next election. This is one of the most dangerous legislation I’ve hear about so far… are they on illegal drugs? How did people of this intellectual level get elected in the first place? Who’s planting these traitors into our government? I can see another civil war or holy war in this country’s future. I TOTALLY DO NOT SUPPORT “MEDICARE” FOR ALL!

Raymond Whatley
2 years ago

Once you are in a government run health care system, the government controls you for the rest of your life. Americans will no longer be free (except for the politicians,who will exempt themselves and keep their own private health insurance).

Joyce Wood
2 years ago

NO, NO MEDICARE FOR ALL! Not now, not every!

frank docekal
2 years ago

all of congress should be on medicare and no special medical plan. and no pension after they leave office.

Carl Benander
2 years ago

The Democrats have never been concerned with the cost of their proposals or the means to pay for them

lois
2 years ago

I’m old enough to remember a time when basic health care was affordable without health insurance. Before lawyers, politicians and basic greed crept in. I’ve seen how frivolous lawsuits have raised the price of medical treatment and medicine, too. Until all of us realize that you cannot have something without paying for it ( one way or another ) we’re doomed. We need to rely on common sense more and hasty emotions less.

Mike E
2 years ago

It’s time for some conservatives to wake up and see what the AARP really is, which is just another arm of the democratic party. They push the same agenda the leftists do, and why any conservative would want to belong to an organization like them is beyond me. Maybe when they see the article in AARP’s magazine, they membership base will get an education. I say this about some conservatives because I know of several that believe AARP is just a wonderful organization that stands up for the retired. That is the reason I am a proud member of Amac and will remain one.

Jack H
2 years ago

When AARP backed ObamaCare, I droped out and found Amac. I never pass up an opportunity to promote Amac to my friends and acquaintances.

donna
2 years ago

I would like the Medicare premiums to be reasonable for seniors. When the Social Security is increased every year but so are the Medicare premiums, then the increase amounts to nothing. I believe that if someone has health insurance through their employer and they want to keep their plan, they should be able to do so. Health insurance for all will increase the debt and decrease the level of care people are receiving. Health Insurance for all would be a disaster! US Citizens should have health insurance of some type. Those who are not citizens should not receive government assistance of any type. If someone wants to become a citizen, they should apply to become a citizen through proper avenues. If the dem/socialists promise free healthcare for all and free university tuition, the country will be bankrupt in a short period of time. JUST WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? Do we really want the fall of the United States of America?

Amelia Little
2 years ago

I would like to thank AMAC for being a platform for sanity and common sense. I suggest to all friends to go to AMAC instead of AARP. I wish there were more articles that would get to people who pro-Medicare for All, or even any government operated medical care that provide information from citizens of countries with this type of “medical” care. The only positive thing I have heard from a regular citizen was how wonderful it is for children. All check-ups, vaccinations, etc are taken care of (evidently without the major delays that seem to occur with adult issues.) Of course, we have read of 2 cases where the government determined that the children in question were denied treatment, Alfie Evans and Charlie Gard’s parents were not “allowed” to take their children another country (Italy for Alfie, US for Charlie) although neither would be on England’s dime. I wonder how Mick Jagger was allowed to come to the US? Let citizens relate how long it takes to get care we take for granted in the US–hip replacement and other surgeries, mental health care (that is a biggie here in the US where MORE mental health care is needed.) For sure, there is no “If you like your doctor……” rhetoric there, and it already was disproved in the US regarding obamacare. From what I see, there are “man on the street” interviews (from conservative programs, of course) where especially college students have NO idea about so many issues–they are fed socialism by the educational system and don’t get any perspective on how socialism would actually impact them.

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